While the kickr uses a direct drive system, the kickr snap goes with a traditional rear wheel drive method. The new wahoo snap 2017 or wahoo snap 2, basically looks the same as the old one but with some minor updates. Before, a spin down calibration required that you get it set to where it stops between 916 seconds. Ultimately, there are too many variables with wheelon trainers to expect consistent, accurate results without a 10 minute warmup and a calibration. The flywheel on the kickr snap was designed specifically to provide a smooth and quiet riding experience. Many other people are also getting into indoor cycling for its cardiovascular, lowimpact health benefits. Pretty sure its a feature of several other apps as. At pks bike shop, we have been using the wahoo snap purchase. For more information on setting up your trainer, please see the wahoo product instructions section and select your trainer. Say your gear selection yields 20mph but you then change your spin to 100rpm but remain in that same gear.
I open up the wahoo app again and reconnect all the available devices, kickr snap, garmin cadence sensor, garmin speed sensor and garmin heart rate strap. Since android devices vary widely, compatibility cannot be assured for all devices. But so far so good, and since i am only at this residence for 4 months a year, and half of that is either on the road or back home. Howwhen do i perform a spindown calibration on the kickr. The video covers the basics of the kickr snap spin down calibration and how to get the most accurate readings possible. Recently purchased a kickr original version and attempted to set it up today. Kickr core spindown times im running the latest firmware and after warmup my spindown times within the wahoo app are in the range of 1012s temp.
Kickr power trainer whether youre looking for the accuracy and control of a directdrive bike trainer or the flexibility and convenience of a wheelon solution, kickr and kickr snap offer two distinct indoor training solutions. Build quality the first thing that strikes you about the kickr snap is how sturdy it feels. I just got a kickr today and plan on using it sometime this week. Zwift is constantly sending current gradient numbers to your smart trainer, and the trainer adjusts its resistance to match the gradient you are riding. Regardless of what kind of trainer you have, you should warmup the trainer for about 10 minutes before calibrating. Does anyone have that thing and achieved a somewhat accurate power results with the snap wf118. The trainer difficulty setting scales the gradients sent to your trainer trainer difficulty is set to 50% by default, which is why zwift says it treats the gradient as half of the true grade. This week wahoo quietly launched an updated version of the kickr snap trainer. Advanced spin down first when you first connect the trainer, then standard spin downs thereafter. I did the factory spin down and then a normal spin down and the numbers are looking better however still not great. This is my first smart trainer and i do not have a power meter on my bike. Using the trainer difficulty setting in zwift zwift. If you go to the kickr snap instructions on wahoos website, youll see an instruction video that claims a spin down time of 1015 seconds is.
I know there is a calibration feature in tr within each workout, and a spin down feature in the wahoo fitness app. Pair the kickr snap to the wahoo fitness app ios and android pairing instructions make sure your firmware is up to date ios and android firmware update instructions perform a spin down spindown instructions. For me it took a while to fully appreciate that there was an issue with my kickr. For more information on our app, see wahoo fitness ios app instructions.
We have four computrainers cts, a wahoo fitness kickr, and a wahoo fitness snap. Every 2 minutes, shift to an easier gear and increase the rpm by 5. The wahoo kickr is a smart trainer that uses both bluetooth 4. Open the trainerroad app and go to the devices screen. Now according to wahoo, the ideal spin down time is between 12 and 15 seconds.
Hence one of the reasons this has been integrated into zwift. I was playing around today with it and did a spin down calibration with it and read 481 twice and 482 once, 75 degrees and 18s spin down. Using your stages power meter with a smart trainer print. How to do a spin down on a smart trainer endurancehub. Of course, wahoo only makes two trainers the full kickr directdrive, and the kickr snap wheelon. But the kickr snap isnt trying to be the lightest or the most portable. The spindown is vital every time you take the bike off the snap, much more so than with the bigger kickr, due to tyreair pressure variables and their effect on power measurement accuracy. Howwhen do i perform a spindown calibration on the kickr snap. Ride the kickr snap for 10 minutes to warm it up perform a spindown. Lets say you have a 200w ftp and youre riding an 80% interval with a 100rpm cadence. The first thing you may notice about the kickr snap is its weight. How and when to do a kickr spindown calibration wahoo. Id expect some kind of power difference but not a gap this large.
Calibration, and performing the detailed spin down is absolutely vital to effective use both of the kickr snap and its use on zwift to highlight this, for the first test, i ran the wahoo kickr snap following just the simple spin down. Im running the latest firmware and after warmup my spindown times within the wahoo app are in the range of 1012s temp. The wahoo kickr snap is a great entrylevel smart trainer. The wahoo kickr, which dave tested last year, is currently the golden child in the smarttrainer market, so the kickr snap has a lot to live up to. Kickr calibration help required equipment trainerroad. The graphs below show quite a difference in powers between both power. How to do advanced spindown calibration on wahoo kickr and. I had calibrated all power meters including a spindown of the kickr at the 0minute marker. Select the spindown icon crossed hammer and spanner which appears to the right of the kickr in the list of linked sensors. One of the things about the kickr snap is that, with wahoos 2017 refresh, they changed how calibration works. They added led lights to display connection status, thirdparty power meter support, and the power. Same thing, did a ride i have done a few times before and it felt easier than in the past. Once your kickr snap is selected, find the spindown button on the device details page. After the trainer is warmed up, zwifters with a cyclops hammer, wahoo kickr, or wahoo kickr snap can calibrate in game.
Select perform spindown and follow the instructions in the app. Start in a moderately hard gear with a comfortable cadence, around 75 rpm. Set my kickr up this evening and just rode for the first time. On tr it says to perform a calibration before each session. I think i am not doing the spin down and or calibration correctly. We like it very much, but with all things that are this techy there is a learning. The wahoo kickr snap is one of wahoos two smart trainers. T he wahoo kickr bike, kickr, kickr core, and kickr snap are fully compatible with the sufferfest app in both erg and level modes you will need to connect to the wahoo fitness app to set up, calibrate and update firmware for your trainer.
The kickr bike is the most connected, capable, and easytouse stationary bike available. The belt seems a bit tight and power underreading maybe 30w. Spindowns help calibrate the kickr snap to ensure accurate data reporting. Indoor cycling is exploding in popularity and is projected to keep growing for the next ten years. Any trainerroadsupported smart trainer with erg mode, e. Whatever your reason, if youre starting indoor cycling resistance. The full kickr got a refresh last summer aka kickr2, which focused on a bunch of less visually. Athletes of all levels from enthusiasts to professional use wahoo fitness to power their cycling, running, and gym workouts. Ramp test kickr how to incorporate second spindown. I purchased the kickr snap in late december and had an issue with the trainer brake until yesterday when i finally decided to do the advanced spindown using iphone app.
To perform a normal spindown on kickr or kickr snap follow these steps. Kickr snap smart power trainer whether youve got a spring race thats going to require some serious winter base mileage or cycling is your yearround passion, investing in the right indoor oasis is crucial to coming out stronger than ever when the snow melts. My turbo specific tyre is set to 100psi and when wheeling the roller onto the tyre i turn. Incredible realfeel connectivity with thirdparty apps. I know trainer road has a spin downcalibrate function for the kickr. Thats their first update to their wheelon smart trainer since it was first introduced about two years ago. Wahoo fitness kickr snap smart power trainer competitive. Ok, yes its only one app at a time can be in charge of the wahoo api. From here, you carry out a spin down test as per the instructions on the app. I now do a 12 minute warm and a fairly decent pace. At pks bike shop, we have been using the wahoo snap purchase here. I check tyre pressure and do a spin down every time i use it. App workout summary the wahoo fitness app gives a summary of each workout including power, heart rate, speed, and cadence with the wahoo cadence sensor.
Last month, wahoo fitness released an updated kickr snap. Kickr bike combines numerous indoor training innovations into a training machine, offering a ride experience that blurs the line between virtual and reality. A normal spindown is recommended for the kickr snap before every ride. A spin down, or calibration, consists of 1015 minutes of easy pedalling, followed by a short acceleration up to 3738kph, at which point you stop pedalling and let the internal resistance of the smart trainer freewheel bring the flywheel to a stop. If this is your first time using the kickr snap, you may be prompted to perform a factory or advanced spindown, which is required for accurate calibration and performance. Wahoo fitness kickr and snap the btc photo credit jay westcott. Kickr snap suddenly drastically different in power after calibration. And then again, at the 10minute marker, per wahoos recommendation to calibrate complete a spindown the kickr snap about 10minutes in.
Handson with new wahoo fitness kickr snap dc rainmaker. Plus when it is time to pack up and i need the storage space, this unit folds up nicely and takes up a lot less space than a kickr would. Kickr or computrainer, will set the resistance to 160w as you spin steadily. If this is your first time using the kickr snap, you may be prompted to perform a factory or advanced spindown, which is required for accurate calibration and. After spin down my kickr is very close when comparing to my garmin vectors. For kickr snap 17 or newer identified by external leds near the flywheel, calibration is based on proper roller tension and tire pressure please ignore information regarding spindown times and roller adjustment in the following video. Wahoo fitness indoor bike trainers, gps bike computers. The latest zwift update includes the ability to perform a spindowncalibration of fec bluetooth compatible smart trainers. Using your stages power meter with a smart trainer print modified on. Consistent calibration on a wahoo kickr snap velonut. We have converted our garage into a make shift spin studio affectionately called the bike torture chamber or btc for short. Ride simulating software like zwift makes riding indoors as fun as playing video games. The last i had heard about when to perform spindown was when you set it up or move the kickr.
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